DHS Secretary Chertoff on REAL ID's "COUNTLESS OTHER" USES.


Thursday, June 26, 2008

Family Security Matters: REAL ID = National ID

Jim Harper of the Cato Institute has written a post entitled Family Security Matters: REAL ID = National ID.

There is a lot of back and forth about REAL ID that goes like this:

"It's a National Id Card!"
"No, it's not!"
"Yes, it is!"
"Is not!"
"Is too!"
"Is not!"

But Harper's post reminds us that the argument ends up on "Is too!"


Anonymous said...

In addition to:

"But it's not a national ID card", here are some more of the top arguments of those in favor of a national ID (oops, I mean a national ID administered by the States)

1)"If you have nothing to hide, why should you care"
2)"The Constitution was written over a century ago by people who could not foresee technolgy"
3)"We have already lost all of our privacy rights anyways, why should one more matter"
4)"Don't you trust the government"
5)"Why wouldn't you want to combine a driver's license and a passport into one card?"

The best though does not need an argument at all - apprarently, we should just "cope with it" because that's the way it is.... http://www.cqpolitics.com/wmspage.cfm?parm1=5&docID=hsnews-000002920353 The post succeeds mostly in exposing that all Enhanced Drivers Licenses (EDLs)are is REAL ID by another name. Those celebrating the potential demise of REAL ID may find that it is not DHS giving up; they just may not need it anymore.

Superb Jon said...

Power Grab Inherent in Claims of Identity Fraud. You would not have the issue of identity theft if the socialists did not create this artifice of identity to begin with in order to practise redistribution. Under Common Law, any identity may be assumed provided it is not fraudulent. Latin casuistry disagrees because it despises our legal system.

Anonymous said...

In Delaware, where I live they are pimping the Real ID like it is the greatest thing since sliced bread.

I will NEVER get one. If I can’t fix the situation in my State, than I will be moving. If I can’t move far enough, I will go off the grid. It is a shame that I would have to do such a crazy thing to protect my privacy and stand for my principles.

The sad truth is, the vast majority of people are too wrapped up in themselves and their lives to care about the loss of freedoms, the waste in government, or the death of our constitutional republic.

Even those who have interest, are so mis-informed and brain washed from the corporate media machine that they simply squabble whatever left or right sided position the news they choose to watch tells them.

We are becoming a nation void of individual thought. Convenience has taken the place of research. Corporations and chains have taken over.

Never mind the fact that we have sent generations of our bravest young men and women to fight wars that make our citizens less secure, poorer, and hated around the world.

This country has lost its way. I just can’t believe that socialism and communism ideas are now the main stream thought.

What ever happened to self reliance?

Whatever happened to keeping the money you earn from your efforts?

Whatever happened to Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness? Why has it become the governments job to play Robin Hood?

It makes me sick that my government takes money from me and then uses that money to go kill people in Iraq, Afghanistan, and all the other countries we are in “unofficially” .

It makes me sick that my neighbors and acquaintances can’t even research the people they vote for. How many people even know the names of some of the people they vote for an hour later?

Just vote the party line! Who has time to think for themselves, it just hurts to much. ouch! Brain Pain

Just a load of crap. Why is it so hard to see that if Grandma was never taxed on her income, she would have enough money to buy her own medicine, or if you were not taxed on your income perhaps you could buy it for her.

I know I went off topic a bit there but when the rant starts it can’t stop easily.

The Real ID does drive me nuts. I actually have written an article about it here, http://www.upfordebate.us/story.php?title=real-id-act–national-id-and-the-end-of-privacy-1

I think it is important to get the word out about this as much as possible. Most people have just bought the propaganda the State has put on them without even questioning why? Or if this is something considered American in values.

I have not yet given up on my country, though that day may come. I will fight as long as a fight to be had. Unfortunately, they are winning, even as they are exposed. I feel we have a legitimate chance to make corrections in the coming years. I think within a decade we should know which way our country will go.

Until then I will do everything I can to thwart the Real ID Act and stand up for my friends and neighbors even as they mock me for standing on the side of liberty and freedom.

The true patriot always stands alone at first.